Administrator Lacks Objectivity

As a blogger, you have every right to publish what you want, within reason. However, you cannot play both roles as a blogger and administrator without losing your objectivity.

To wit; I was invited by the Irish Chat folks to join and expected to participate in a free and open exchange of ideas and opinions.
Must I produce my irish passport to meet your criterion on what constitutes a person who may comment on irish issues. Do you speak for the irish chat folks when you say....."dont(sic) speak for the Irish they we(sic) can do that oursleves'....Further, how did you come to the conclusion that I was an anti-brit with your statement......"your a rabit anti brit"......
Then you proceed to label me a trouble maker and then you offer your mental health opinion.
What kind of miscreant are you and how did you ever become the administrator of this discussion group. You should improve your level of reading comprehension in order to avoid making such irrational comments. In my opinion, You are coming across as a very poor reresentative of the Irish Chat group.
Is it any wonder you have so few participants contributing to this group and it won't be long before you will be talking to yourself. No further discussion is necessary, you have the floor exclusively to yourself.

Henry,
That's a rant from Lalaland for sure. These people fabricate these stories and then keep repeating them to each other until they actually believe them. Delusional is too kind a word for this group.

bipolar disorder comes to mind bill

...as the saying goes, paper won't refuse ink, or in this instance the computer screen won't refuse Times New Roman.

what former account? I just joined here. USA politics is that we have conservative democrats, which are usually called liberals anyway by neocons, Republicans of Bush. I was never here before, I just joined last month. I am in the Irish Cultural Association of NY and doing art fests for 10 years.

then why does member 89wests post match yours on the writers forum word for word how many i.ds have you here

VERY INTRESTING on the account issue !and others ....

Well said 89west!!!! Taggart is a knave who squelches the free exchange of ideas in a rather rude and offensive manner. He does not believe people are Irish-enough - and he even tries to discredit people's Irish backgrounds. He accused me of being you, and he also accused me of being an Ulster Unionist. I have given up on convincing him otherwise, so I have capitulated that I am an Orangemen, for shits and giggles (of course)...As the song goes...

Success to the Orange Wherever it Goes

Let the name of Great William be ever held dear,
By each loyal subject throughout the whole land
For from heaven he looks down on his children met here
And smiles with delight on this Protestant band;
Who with hearts firm and bold
Like their fathers of old,
Rally round this bright standard in spite of our foes
And who will, until death,
Put a stop to our breath,
Sing--"Success to the Orange where ever it goes!"

Although certain persons, well known in this isle,
Have vainly endeavoured on us for to frown,
Yet, at their weak efforts, we safely may smile.--
It's not in their power to put Orangemen down
With aid from on high
Their threats we defy,
And our cause it will flourish in spite of our foes;
Then who will, until death
Put a stop to our breath,
There's --"Success to the Orange where ever it goes!"

Though bigoted wretches, who judge by themselves,
Have asserted "that we are for murder enrolled."
'Tis their own sable hearts first gave birth to the thought,
As we see by their plots which day does enfold.
But truth, like a star
Which shines from afar,
To a candid observer convincingly shows
that 'gainst rebels alone
Our vengeance is shown;
So--"Success to the Orange wherever it goes!"

Now a full- flowing glass to Lord Farnham we'll pass,
The yeomen's brave father, their country's firm prop;
To Enniskillen so bold to his praise be it told,
He'd ne'er hang a yeoman for shooting a Crop,
To the King fill it high
Let our song reach the sky,
And no more may rebellion disturb his repose;
Here's our stout wooden walls,
Which no danger appalls
And--"Success to the Orange wherever it goes!"

That's right Taggart...you step in the shit, and step in it, and step in it, until the odour is as indistinguishable from the shite on the ground to the shite that comes out of your mouth.

Your a right foul git you athiest bastard!

well heres some old shit from the past for you to step in its one of your posts
you dont sound so anti nationalist back then

************************************************ It is apparent from the string concerning Irish Northern Aid that
a number of people missed my original post about the nature and
history of Irish Northern Aid. I am reproducing it here along
with certain emendations which hopefully will answer many people's
questions. (minor spelling errors havebeen corrected)

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/* Written 7:31 pm Jun 7, 1993 by tlane in igc:soc.cult.briti

/

Perhaps a clarification of the role of Irish Northern Aid is in
order for those people here in soc.culture.british who have a very
misguided view of the organization and its aims and aspirations.

Irish Northern Aid Committee was originally set up in New York in
the early 1970's as a solidarity group for the embattled
Nationalists in the north of Ireland. It was set up primarily as
a fund raising organization, not for weapons as many would
believe, but to raise funds for the dependents of Irish political
prisoners. It has maintained this role ever since.

In the late 1970's I.N.A. was forced to register with the U.S.
State Department as "an agent of a foreign power." This is the
same registration that foreign lobbyists and other solidarity
groups must complete. At that time, INA was forced by the
government to register as an agent for the IRA. Lawyers for INA
protested this registration, stating that INA was definitely not
an agent for the IRA, that its moneys were distributed through two
social service agencies, one in Dublin and one in Belfast, who in
turn distribute the funds to the dependents of IRA. (the average
distribution per family is approximately 7-10 pounds sterling per
week) The U.S. government refused to accept INA's appeal, and
therefore INA continues to register every year with the State
Department under protest.

Because INA is registered with the U.S. government as an agent for
a foreign power (whether it be the IRA or the two foreign social
service agencies), the moneys raised throughout the country are
carefully scrutinized by the State Department. Annual financial
reports are submitted to the government as well as detailed
reports on its distribution. It would be virtually impossible for
INA to funnel off significant funds for "guns and bombs" even if
it was their intention.

The above facts do not preclude other fundraising activities in
the U.S. in support of the armed struggle. While such fundraising
does take place in the US, I assume, such funds do not come from
INA coffers.

Irish Northern Aid has received much negative publicity and been
the object of British propaganda primarily because it is the only
solidarity group in the U.S. recognized by the Republican movement
in Ireland. In early 1986 a meeting was held in Dublin between
the leadership of INA and the leadership of Sinn Fein. At that
time INA received a new brief from Ireland: maintain your
fundraising activities, but also become active in political
education and publicity concerning the Republican cause and the
human rights abuses inflicted by the British government on the
nationalist people.

An analogy was made earlier in this topic between the U.S.
government shutting down INA and their shutting down the CIA. It
is important to remember that INA operates contrary to the stated
policies of the US government, and would thus be a prime target
for being shut down should any illegalities occur. The CIA
however, operates clandestinely to uphold the stated or unstated
policies of the U.S. government. It operates in the government's
perceived best interest. Perhaps a number of people will remember
the FBI harassment and surveillance of CISPES (Committee In
Solidarity with the People of El Salvador). They too operated
contrary to the policies of the government. A lawsuit was brought
by CISPES against the FBI. The courts ruled in favor of CISPES,
and all FBI surveillance records were turned over to the
organization, and such surveillance was supposedly ended. INA has
had it's share of FBI surveillance and harassment, from "house
visits" by agents to INA activists, to the threat of deportation
of Irish immigrants who become involved in the organization to the
arrest of Sinn Fein members who come to this country on speaking
tours.

Tom Lane Irish Northern Aid - Chicago Unit Political Education
Director

****end of original posting******

I believe this answers a number of questions regarding funding,
accountability, etc. Someone asked how moneys are raised: The
answer to that is in every way conceivable. Raffles, testimonial
dinners, direct mail appeals, dances, craft sales, walk-a-thons.
etc. I know of one unit in Toledo, Ohio which collects aluminum
cans, gets cash for the aluminum at a recycling center, and
donates the money to INA. All fund raising is done very openly,
and I assume at times in the presence of federal agents.

How to contact INA? You may contact the organization at their
national office at 363 Seventh Ave., New York, NY 10001. INA also
produces a weekly newspaper entitled _The Irish People_, subtitled
"The Voice of Irish Republicanism in America." You can subscribe
to the paper by sending $30.00 ($38.00 in Canada) for an annual
subscription to the above address.

A mention was made of Martin Galvin's exclusion order from the UK
and his flaunting of this ban by appearing in the north of Ireland
frequently. True, Galvin was indeed banned by the UK govt until
it was discovered that he held an Irish passport. His appearance
at a number of functions in the north was done primarily as a
publicity stunt.

It is indeed true that two former members if INA were arrested for
and acquitted of running guns to the IRA. These people's alleged
actions were done independently, with no connection to the
organization. You might expect that people willing to commit
illegal acts might also belong to a legal organization with the
same sympathies. For example, I may be a staunch democrat who
wanted to see Clinton elected at any cost over Bush. However, if
I had picked up a gun and assassinated old George, I would be
acting independently, not as an agent for the Democratic Party.
Neither person are currently a member of INA.

A question was raised as to INA's charitable status. In all
honesty, I cannot answer whether INA has tax exempt status
(501(c)3). I do know that it exists as a non-for profit
organization.

few additional notes on the Foreign Agents Registration Act
(FARA): Since 1938, FARA has been used to compel any person or
organization deemed to be acting as an agent for a "foreign
principal" to register as such with the US Attorney General. The
name of the foreign principal has to be disclosed, as do other
details about the relationship to that principal and the nature of
activities undertaken on its behalf. These must be furnished on
registration, and every six months afterward. If money is
collected for the foreign principal, the amount raised must be
filed, as well as details of how it was collected. All
disbursements in connection with the foreign principal must also
be disclosed. Registration allows authorities to mount
unannounced searches, without warrants, of the agent's financial
records and correspondence.

Tom Lane tl...@igc.apc.org

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I didnt say you werent werent irish ! didnt you just say that i accused you of being an ulster unionist , well ulster unionists are irish arent they ?

Noraid was a patsy American front group for the IRA...funding millions of American dollars and gun running to support the violence of "Nationalists." "Isms" are what cause a whole hell of alot of pain and suffering in the world (presently Jihadism is the culprit).

As much fun as it would have been, I cannot claim to be the Thomas Lane of Chicago that you reference. However, it does prove a point to you, Lane's have struggled for the Nationalist cause.

I do love these fighting songs...
The glorious day of Aughrim's field--
The day of chivalry-
We'll ne'er forget, when helm and shield
Were bless'd with victory!
Like wildfire flashed our engines, then
Red havoc spread dismay;
Up,rouse ye, then, my merry Orangemen
It is King William's day!

To blast the torch of Liberty.
Which our brave sires once fired.
False James--the slave of bigotry--
With Papist foes conspired.
But history's page tells where and when
We made them run away;
Up, rouse ye, then my merry Orangemen
It is King Wiliam's day!

Another Boyne may have its fray;
Another Aughrim rise;
Another Londonderry may
 Show where its martyr lies
And should such scenes blaze forth again--
Stand close upon that day;
 Up, rouse ye, then, my merry Orangemen
It is King William's day!

you are tom lane , it didnt stop you being a senior member of the cook county unit of noraid .
funny how many days of posts you suddenly change all the details on your homepage removing your real name and family history and replacing it with old loyalist stuff that fools noone , not even those who saw you tap your feet to a differant tune in the felons club or while sipping tea in connolly house

Once again you shape up to be a real Class A rube. There are upwards of 46 million Irish Americans in the States. This Thomas Lane whom you claim I am is surely not me...I was 15 when he was active, paddycakes (lol). If it was me, I must be some fecking prodigy.

By the way Taggart, impersonating an Orangeman feels sooo good when it comes to rubbing you the wrong way!

God Save the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Scotland and Northern Ireland!!!!!!!

And I certainly love these Orange songs more and more:

Success to the Orange Wherever it Goes

Let the name of Great William be ever held dear,
By each loyal subject throughout the whole land
For from heaven he looks down on his children met here
And smiles with delight on this Protestant band;
Who with hearts firm and bold
Like their fathers of old,
Rally round this bright standard in spite of our foes
And who will, until death,
Put a stop to our breath,
Sing--"Success to the Orange where ever it goes!"

Although certain persons, well known in this isle,
Have vainly endeavoured on us for to frown,
Yet, at their weak efforts, we safely may smile.--
It's not in their power to put Orangemen down
With aid from on high
Their threats we defy,
And our cause it will flourish in spite of our foes;
Then who will, until death
Put a stop to our breath,
There's --"Success to the Orange where ever it goes!"

Though bigoted wretches, who judge by themselves,
Have asserted "that we are for murder enrolled."
'Tis their own sable hearts first gave birth to the thought,
As we see by their plots which day does enfold.
But truth, like a star
Which shines from afar,
To a candid observer convincingly shows
that 'gainst rebels alone
Our vengeance is shown;
So--"Success to the Orange wherever it goes!"

Now a full- flowing glass to Lord Farnham we'll pass,
The yeomen's brave father, their country's firm prop;
To Enniskillen so bold to his praise be it told,
He'd ne'er hang a yeoman for shooting a Crop,
To the King fill it high
Let our song reach the sky,
And no more may rebellion disturb his repose;
Here's our stout wooden walls,
Which no danger appalls
And--"Success to the Orange wherever it goes!"